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| == Notes == | | == Notes == |
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| A very good recording - but it's lossy, unfortunately. Here are Vince's notes about this recording:
| | The concert with the infamous lossy soundboard (see below). |
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| | Newspaper The Daily Advertiser [https://www.newspapers.com/image/536863811 reported] that this concert and [[1990-07-20 Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountainview, San Francisco, CA, USA|the previous concert]] grossed $783,370. |
| The “famous” 1990 soundboards | |
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| Note : I used various sources and personal infos to write down
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| the following background text.
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| Some info may be incorrect, please contact me if you see any error,
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| or if you can complete or add any relevant information
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| about that venue/period/gig/set/songs.
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| Depeche Mode released no official live tracks on audio or video of the “World Violation Tour”.
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| Some parts of a live concert (one gig? more?) can be seen on the “World In My Eyes” music video
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| (taken from the Mountain View video ???).
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| The band and management said that with the release of “Depeche Mode 101”,
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| there was no need for another audio/video release only 2 years after the last tour.
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| It seemed that no gig was protaped by Mute, but that some were partially taped by TV or more fully
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| when giant screens were provided by the venues (the TV staff of the venue filmed the performance).
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| But where are the other soundboards?
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| Brat did a great job finding a multicam proshot tape of the first of the two Dodger Stadium in 1990.
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| It was taped by the Dodger video crew, for the giant screens.
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| The Dodger Stadium may have a digital copy, but who knows?
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| Brat provided free samples on Vimeo (90 sec of each song), thanks to him :
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| http://vimeo.com/album/2199441
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| Furthermore, at the Home forum (depeche-mode.com), in this post
| | Listen to an interview with Dave Gahan on this day [[1990-07-21 Live 105, San Francisco, CA, USA|here]]. |
| (http://www.depeche-mode.com/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg124250#msg124250)
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| Brat said:
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| The last time I tried to beg Fletch to release all the old soundboards that JD has collecting dust,
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| Fletch replied with "They're soundboards. They aren't properly mixed. You can't hear the crowd."
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| Even though I almost went blue in the face, screaming that was the exact reason to release them,
| | Nitzer Ebb was the support act. |
| I doubt it will ever happen (though I always beg whenever I get the chance). One day, they will give in! :)
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| Here are the “questions and answers” done by Alan on his website, who is always happy to give many many infos
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| on his work with Depeche Mode. Thanks to him!
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| From: Frantisek Trenkler
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| Q > I would like to ask you why DM released so many live songs during the 'Devotional' tour
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| (live singles, 'SOFAD' live, 'Devotional' video) and yet there was nothing released during the 'World Violation' tour?
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| Are there at least some 1990 tour audio/video recordings in your archives so we can hope for their later release?
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| A > The 'World Violation' tour was too soon after the 'MFTM' tour to warrant a live LP.
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| By the time 'Devotional' came along it was felt that enough time had passed to release another one.
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| I'm sure there are some recordings from 'World Violation' but I don't know if they will ever be released.
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| From: Farhan
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| Q > Did DM record all their live shows and then listen to them afterwards for improvement matters?
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| A > I used to get our sound engineer to record tapes (directly from the mixing board) of rehearsals
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| and the first few shows of a tour. These don't always give you an accurate balance but are good
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| for checking performance etc. Apart from that, we only recorded certain shows (using a mobile)
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| if we were intending a live LP or something.
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| | {{Template:WVT|Here Is The House|Sweetest Perfection}} |
| The gig | | == Sources == |
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| An incomplete audience version of this gig exists, and three different complete SDB “mp3 versions” were available (mostly since 2005):
| | *[[1990-07-21 Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountainview, San Francisco, CA, USA/Source 1|Source 1]] is an okay soundboard recording. It sounds like it has been subject to several rounds of lossy compression, which causes significant artifacts throughout the recording. |
| - raw SDB “mp3 version” | | *[[1990-07-21 Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountainview, San Francisco, CA, USA/Source 2|Source 2]] is a very good audience recording. |
| - “remastered” (?) SDB “mp3 version” | |
| - normalized and reworked SDB “mp3 version” done by me and freely sent to around 30 "important" french fans since May 2006.
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| I asked them not to surface it, as I was hoping to surface the “wave version”. It was a gift I made to them,
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| to gave a proof that if I was not surfacing anything, they will have the opportunity to do that.
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| Since May 2006, I worked very hard to track down a possible wave / video version. I did not find it, but had many many infos,
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| and I hope that it will be surfaced in the future with other rarities.
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| The original source for this soundboard recording was said by Brat to be 192kbps MP3 files, leaked by an unnamed northern Californian promoter.
| | {{Ticket|T-1990-07-21|the Ken Piccolo Ticket Stub Collection}} |
| I received the MP3 files used for this recording from a French DJ who obtained it from a DJ friend in the USA, so it is reasonable to assume
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| that these files are the original leaked files, hopefully without further MP3 transcoding applied...
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| On October 4th, 2006, a French fan sent Rapidshare links with 12 tracks of mp3 (mp3 from the wave version I sended in May 2006),
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| taken from the normalized version I sended to friends. It seemed that someone lied to me and made copies.
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| Everyone played the game… only one black sheep, not bad after all ^_^
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| There were also samples of the SDB that surfaced in 2004 (heavy compression), and a few more samples in 2005 (same compression than the usual
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| complete SDB “mp3 version”).
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| Side-line electro webzine announced in late 2003 “Violator soundboard recording pops up”.
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| This started some debate to know if the extract (“Enjoy The Silence”) was taken from the Moutain View SDB (presented here),
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| or from the Philadelphia day 2 MTV broadcast.
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| http://www.side-line.com/news_comments.php?id=P373_0_2_0_C
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| To date, no silver CD bootleg of this recording has been released. Maybe the lossiness is stopping them, but that hasn't stopped bootleg labels
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| releasing lossy recordings before.
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| You may find the incomplete audience recording of this concert on DIME here: http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=421635
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| In summer 2011, a 3LP colored vinyl bootleg called "Violator Live" appeared on eBay. This bootleg contains an incomplete copy of the soundtrack of
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| the Dodger Stadium pro-shot VHS giant screen tape mentioned earlier. The last five tracks on "Violator Live" are from this torrent's recording of
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| Shoreline and are not from a lossless source. It is unknown why the entire Dodger Stadium soundtrack was not used for the bootleg. Late December 2011
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| is when the recording appeared on bootleg forums and DIME. Compared to the Shoreline soundboard recording, the Dodger's Stadium recording is unmixed
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| and unmastered (other than what was done by the bootleg label).
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| == Track list ==
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| #[3:17] [[Kaleid]]
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| #[5:15] [[World In My Eyes]]
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| #[4:40] [[Halo]]
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| #[5:16] [[Shake The Disease]]
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| #[6:07] [[Everything Counts]]
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| #[3:58] [[Master And Servant]]
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| #[7:00] [[Never Let Me Down Again]]
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| #[5:43] [[Waiting For The Night]]
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| #[4:36] [[Here Is The House]] (*)
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| #[3:24] [[Sweetest Perfection]] (*)
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| #[6:18] [[Clean]]
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| #[6:31] [[Stripped]]
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| #[5:05] [[Policy Of Truth]]
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| #[7:48] [[Enjoy The Silence]]
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| #[5:02] [[Strangelove]]
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| #[6:34] [[Personal Jesus]]
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| #[4:43] [[Black Celebration]]
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| #[4:35] [[A Question Of Time]]
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| #[5:33] [[Behind The Wheel]]
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| #[5:07] [[Route 66]]
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| *Total time: 1:46:31
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| === Sample ===
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| <player title="1990-07-21 Mountainview Sample">1990-07-21-sample-sbd.mp3</player>
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| == Lineage ==
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| Tentative: Proshot video (giant screen feed) -> Betacam or S-VHS (no hiss) -> ... -> MP3 (192kbps CBR?) -> CD-R -> CD-R -> WAV -> reworking in Soundforge (normalization, no EQ) -> FLAC level 8
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| == Download ==
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| *[[Media:Depeche Mode - 1990-07-21 - Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountainview, San Francisco, CA, USA (SBD).torrent|Download via torrent]] - FLAC 16-bit 44.1khz - 586MB
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| *[https://thepiratebay.pe/torrent/9184955/Depeche_Mode_-_1990-07-21_-_Shoreline_Amphitheatre__Mountainview The Pirate Bay link]
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| [[Category:Soundboard recordings]]
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| [[Category:1990 World Violation Tour]]
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| [[Category:Download available]] | | [[Category:Download available]] |
| | [[Category:Notable concerts]] |